Oi, to all those that wanna know what the comments are on about with CyberWeasel89. This person was kinda a cunt about AI artwork, and while I have my own personal disdain for AI "artwork", they essentially went on an autistic warpath about it and harassed the creator of this project, conflating AI with NFTs, two rather different issues, and is one of the most pretentious assholes I've seen. However, that doesn't save other commentors from my judgement this has apparently been an issue for people to keep barking and shouting at each other. Let me put this simply:
You do not get a free pass to become a harasser just because someone else is harassing.
If you are blocked, leave it be. It doesn't matter what they say to you, it matters how you conduct yourself, and you've all done poorly and have even stooped lower at points than the initial petty asshole.
Final notes and comments. I myself am autistic, don't get your panties in a twist for me saying it in a more derogatory fashion. I don't think I've acted the best just now for making a comment, but all I see is that people are still bitching about a salty commentor ten days ago rather than talking about the fucking game. About that, to True Apollyon IMA. While I'm not generally a fan of these kinds of interactive fiction games, you did rather well. It doesn't seem like English is your first language in the writing, and even if it is your first language, it is forgivable especially if this is your first time programming and making a game by yourself. So is the AI art, I have a general disdain for AI work and generally make a habit of blocking it, but for this I didn't entirely mind, I actually rather understand the difficulties of making artwork being an artist myself. I do suggest learning the process of creating artwork as a hobby, and you can even use AI as a jumping off point as even though it generally steals others artwork and makes an amalgamation of nonsense, if you're to draw something from that nonsense it can in fact be considered your own original work. Most things seem to work as they should, however I noticed you can continue to eat one person in particular that doesn't seem like that should be happening. In any case, hope you're well.
You guys are assholes this person took their time to make this game and you have nothing good to say about it. If you don't like the game then why are you playing it, you should let other people enjoy playing the game and if other people have a problem with me saying this then just don't read this.
Cyberweasel89. Look, I know you have strong opinions about the whole AI art theft thing, but if you don't like it so much, why the fuck are you here? You go onto an AI visual novel, complain about the art because it isn't "original" and about "art theft", and get pissed off because people are annoyed about you complaining about their fat porn. We don't particularly care. WE FUCKING KNOW. We just want some decent narrative with a couple of huge bellies and tits. Quite simply, if you don't like this kind of thing, AI or porn alike, (go fuck off to the unholy cesspit you crawled from and stop having a rag at people for calling you out for being a prick about their chosen wank fuel) don't look at it. Also, on many other forums, I can see you getting increasingly pissed off about the "toxic techbros" and how dumb people are. People don't take this shit seriously. If its not about the game, it doesn't fucking matter. Take this into consideration before posting another complaint about how shitty everything is, and think to yourself this: "Will complaining in another long rant about how so and so said this really make a difference? Will telling the developers about what a person said on discord really make the person stop saying these things? Is what I say contributing to said chosen wank fuel helping, or will it just piss people off even more?" If any of these are no, don't post.
@cyberweasel89 your name sucks btw and ain't nobody knew you were a "woman" cause your name tbh I thought you were a spoiled rotten rich kid who keeps crying to his mommy cause their taking my art or art in general art is meant to be explored and expanded on cause art is a symbol of the freedom in this world I don't give a damn weather or not I'm fucking sailing the seven fucking seas trying to fish art out the water that is what is meant to do fish it catch it make a new version release into the ocean for someone else to remake quit crying about art and get a better fucking job if your gonna complain about stupid shit like pay cry bout it and tell your friends and you to go fuck yourself oh wait you already have multiple fuck you have a horrible day
Cyberweasel89 I would like to reply to one of your comments to say this but I can't which I'm assuming is because you blocked me after asking you one question. The reason why everyone immediately started getting pissed at you is because you immediately started insulting them. For example I simply ask you the question why you specifically we're so upset about AI art and you responded by calling me a nft tech bro. The only reason I was asking you the question is because I had no idea that AI steals art from real artist and was just trying to strike a conversation with you to learn more about it. Instead like I said previously all I got was insults and I'm assuming blocked. So stop crying about everybody throwing insults at you when you're the one that started it. PS I'm not some stupid nft tech bro that thinks crypto is the future, I hate that stuff it's stupid.
You have an unusual definition of "love" considering the attacks I had to endure simply for speaking up against machine-learning-algorith procedurally generated art theft that overloads electrical power grids with all the power required to run it for what amounts to soulless uncanny valley art theft from people okay with stealing from starving artists.
As I said in the other comment, I appreciate your change of mind on "AI." But you now have a toxic fanbase of techbros who will turn on you the second they think you're not going to provide them with justification for their AI white knighting. I only hope it doesn't bite you like it did me when I simply tried to speak up.
It's a shame to see the game die but it's understandable considering that you have no wishes to use AI anymore. You are a very good and respectable person for choosing to do things the right way and not the easy way. I wish you good luck with your future projects.
yeah im sorry if i could do it again ill probably use my own art i took the easy way out.. not saying ai art cant be use for anything i feel like there could be some potential to be a tool but not like this stealing from other artists and making companies produce sloppy creativity
Thank you, I appreciate that information. Also, I apologize if I come across a bit blunt in this reply.
Normally I am far more polite and friendly with people since I'm generally a cheerful and optimistic person who has been harmed by so many people that I hate harming others since I don't want to make them feel like I once did.
But every time I see an alert for Flarea Gain, up until this one, it has always been yet another AI techbro trying to do one of the following: -White knight procedurally-generated art theft with the same sales pitches that techbros used for crypto and NFT before that NFT bubble burst. -Claim that the main issues with procedurally-generated art theft algorithms don't exist because they can't be bothered to use Google or talk to actual starving artists that are having their work stolen and being replaced by corporations with algorithms trained on the art they made without their permission. No doubt if I told them that electrical power grids are reporting huge strain under the sheer amount of electricitical power these algorithm-based procedurally generators require, they would make up some excuse or claim all the articles are false as well, even though this is the same problem that blockchain, cryptocurrency, and NFTs have and they attract the same techbros looking for get-rich-quick schemes. -Make weird, bizarre false equivalency allegories for why "no, the millions of pieces of art used to train each algorithm without the permission of the original artists who own the art ISN'T art theft because of this" showing that they have no idea how anything in the world actually works or are expressing bizarre "if I can see it in public, it officially belongs to everyone including me" views akin to the meme version of communism (and funny enough, AI algorithms HAVE attracted hardcore stans who legitimately identify as communists for this very reason). -Express their genuine contempt for hardworking artists because they see it as "taking power" from creatives who already have no power because corporations view creative roles as some of the lest valuable and expendable roles in any industry and so artists of any kind are frequently paid very little compared to other jobs in an industry or corporation. -Simply sling petty and immature insults, usually by saying this isn't important to talk about for some reason that they won't share but somehow not talking about it is so important to them they want to silence others who talk about it, or just whatever degrading thing they can think of that is typically related to disabilities or various minorities groups such as black people or LGBT people.
The fact that AI algorithm content draws these horrid people like shit draws flies makes me question why you would want to associate with so many of such people in the first place, making content that would draw these peopel who hate artists, insult and try to forcibly silence people who simply see the issue with it, express clear bigoted views and will assume anyone they don't like falls under whatever minority they use as synonymous with playground namecalling, and are too stupid to understand any criticism of A.I. yet gullible enough to believe any poorly-written defense of A.I.
All these people in your comments, hurling insults, non-logic, and general horridness at anyone who simply sees the issue with AI, drawn to your work for having used and posted AI stuff, and you have allowed them to do so in your comments for so long. I appreciate your change of heart, and while I thank you for it, I'm afraid I have spent so long defending myself from hostile attacks by your own fans simply for criticizing algorithm-based art theft that I hesitant to not be suspicious of you still. I don't want to be, but the sheer amount of horrid people in your own fanbase attacking me for saying something you now agree with and being allowed to do so means my feelings of pain cannot be overcome by any desire I have to truly see you in a completely positive light from your change of mind.
I expressed criticism for machine-learning algorithm procedurally-generated images, trained from the theft of art that didn't belong to nor the person training the algorith nor did it have any permission to be used. In respons, I was relentlessly bombarded with abuse from your own fans who were drawn to the project you made because of the power-hogging method you used to make it via art that didn't belong to you. I tried to do something good with my life, and I paid for it at the hands of your fans.
If your fans hate that people stand up for what's right, hate that people don't remain bystanders, hate that horrid exploitation of the vulnerable is not allowed to happen without consequences or accountability, and are willing to dogpile such people to silence them so that they can get away with their hatred of artists and the environment?
Then I hope you're happy with the kind of fans you've attracted, as they likely won't be happy with your change of mind on the overloaded electrical grids powering their algorithmic image-generators that they are willing to go to war to white knight.
I appreciate you for your change of mind, thank you for speaking up about it... but the fact you stood by and let your fans abuse others for saying what you now agree with, simply because they wanted to silence the people who cared about the people being exploited by what they are defending, means I'm afraid I can't extend positive sentiments to you beyond that gratitude and appreciation, as my gratitude and appreciation do not heal the punishment I was forced to face for simply speaking up in an attempt to do some good in the world, however small it was in whatever little ways I could.
I also see that, despite agreeing with me on AI, your fanboy SK8ER69 is claiming I "manipulated you" and that I'm a "prick."
This is what I meant. You attracted such people to you with your choice to use souless art theft that overloads power stations. It's already happening and frankly considering all he warnings you had and how you stood by and let them do these things to me, again whileI appreciate your change of mind and thank you for speaking up, my pain at having paid for speaking up outweighs my sympathy for these same people who you let attack me now attacking you when you drew them to your shadow in the first place...
That sounds cruel, yes... but I can't help it. I've grown tired of trying to defend myself against these AI techbros that you brought here... so very tired... No good deed ever goes unpunished, not when there are techbros eager to silence people who could prevent them from being free of accountability...
I don't get what the point of this is. The AI-generated art theft is giving me serious uncanny valley and I can't imagine how the eco-destruction of generating the art theft is worth it when the writing is so full of typos and the English is too poor to make up for that uncanny valley, art theft, and environmentalism destruction.
Hm, I'm not sure what you're supposed to accomplish with this comment. Is your self-worth wrapped up in trying to make others upset using ineffectual playground tactics? Or do you not get a lot of positive attention so you lash out at strangers online so you can feel less alone?
Nobody cares about your opinion, this is a simple game with AI art (and using AI art in your game if you paid is legal) with fetish content for those who have same fetish.
And dont say that my grammatical and english level is poor, I know that.
How strange. You say "you paid," but paid who? Knowingly paying a thief for their stolen goods doesn't make it legal, bro. If you think that, then you're probably gonna have a rough time in life.
I'm sorry dawg I wanna be reasonable and hear from both sides but you sound like the most entitled prick ever its insane, just let these people enjoy their game. it's not hurting nobody so just let it go
I'm a woman so I don't expect you to know what a "Keyboad Warrior" is. But the fact you don't know I'm a woman probably explains your vitriol and desire to white knight theft and environmental terrorism.
There are several problems with the development of this game, the firts one is that i cant work on it and work on other things that i have in my life right now, the second one is that the gameplay loop is very limited in its fun so it must be totally changed for it to work or make better events that leads to the third one that is my incapability or difficulty to make good story, some of the story or text in the game is very rushed or i thought of something and didnt put it later i often work with more ai to solve this which end up feeling really dull. I also have some problems with the way i generated the images so im now incapable of that too.
TLDR: I would need like a fan project type of team (i cant afford anything paid) and rework a lot of things to make update it. Im so sorry i know a lot of you played and liked and you keep commenting and it warms my heart thank you.
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Make a butt expansion spell please
Great game!!!
Please come back to us, True Apollyon IMA
update the gam
Hello is anyone there
are you alive?
Do you plan on making another game related to this?
Oi, to all those that wanna know what the comments are on about with CyberWeasel89. This person was kinda a cunt about AI artwork, and while I have my own personal disdain for AI "artwork", they essentially went on an autistic warpath about it and harassed the creator of this project, conflating AI with NFTs, two rather different issues, and is one of the most pretentious assholes I've seen. However, that doesn't save other commentors from my judgement this has apparently been an issue for people to keep barking and shouting at each other. Let me put this simply:
You do not get a free pass to become a harasser just because someone else is harassing.
If you are blocked, leave it be. It doesn't matter what they say to you, it matters how you conduct yourself, and you've all done poorly and have even stooped lower at points than the initial petty asshole.
Final notes and comments. I myself am autistic, don't get your panties in a twist for me saying it in a more derogatory fashion. I don't think I've acted the best just now for making a comment, but all I see is that people are still bitching about a salty commentor ten days ago rather than talking about the fucking game. About that, to True Apollyon IMA. While I'm not generally a fan of these kinds of interactive fiction games, you did rather well. It doesn't seem like English is your first language in the writing, and even if it is your first language, it is forgivable especially if this is your first time programming and making a game by yourself. So is the AI art, I have a general disdain for AI work and generally make a habit of blocking it, but for this I didn't entirely mind, I actually rather understand the difficulties of making artwork being an artist myself. I do suggest learning the process of creating artwork as a hobby, and you can even use AI as a jumping off point as even though it generally steals others artwork and makes an amalgamation of nonsense, if you're to draw something from that nonsense it can in fact be considered your own original work. Most things seem to work as they should, however I noticed you can continue to eat one person in particular that doesn't seem like that should be happening. In any case, hope you're well.
Hallo, Just wanted to say I loved your game! Gute Arbeit! Short but oh so very sweet.. GREAT vore paths too btw! >:)
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You guys are assholes this person took their time to make this game and you have nothing good to say about it. If you don't like the game then why are you playing it, you should let other people enjoy playing the game and if other people have a problem with me saying this then just don't read this.
Cyberweasel89. Look, I know you have strong opinions about the whole AI art theft thing, but if you don't like it so much, why the fuck are you here? You go onto an AI visual novel, complain about the art because it isn't "original" and about "art theft", and get pissed off because people are annoyed about you complaining about their fat porn. We don't particularly care. WE FUCKING KNOW. We just want some decent narrative with a couple of huge bellies and tits. Quite simply, if you don't like this kind of thing, AI or porn alike,
(go fuck off to the unholy cesspit you crawled from and stop having a rag at people for calling you out for being a prick about their chosen wank fuel)don't look at it. Also, on many other forums, I can see you getting increasingly pissed off about the "toxic techbros" and how dumb people are. People don't take this shit seriously. If its not about the game, it doesn't fucking matter. Take this into consideration before posting another complaint about how shitty everything is, and think to yourself this: "Will complaining in another long rant about how so and so said this really make a difference? Will telling the developers about what a person said on discord really make the person stop saying these things? Is what I say contributing to said chosen wank fuel helping, or will it just piss people off even more?" If any of these are no, don't post.@cyberweasel89 your name sucks btw and ain't nobody knew you were a "woman" cause your name tbh I thought you were a spoiled rotten rich kid who keeps crying to his mommy cause their taking my art or art in general art is meant to be explored and expanded on cause art is a symbol of the freedom in this world I don't give a damn weather or not I'm fucking sailing the seven fucking seas trying to fish art out the water that is what is meant to do fish it catch it make a new version release into the ocean for someone else to remake quit crying about art and get a better fucking job if your gonna complain about stupid shit like pay cry bout it and tell your friends and you to go fuck yourself oh wait you already have multiple fuck you have a horrible day
btw. what are your plans after finishing this game? (btw I'm not implying you to make another one if u don't wanna)
when is this gonna be available for download
please update it or make another one ☹
Hope you're well
are you still updating the game?
nop
shesh I thought you are because like u didn’t know if there’s going be another update 🤷🏼♂️
Cyberweasel89 I would like to reply to one of your comments to say this but I can't which I'm assuming is because you blocked me after asking you one question. The reason why everyone immediately started getting pissed at you is because you immediately started insulting them. For example I simply ask you the question why you specifically we're so upset about AI art and you responded by calling me a nft tech bro. The only reason I was asking you the question is because I had no idea that AI steals art from real artist and was just trying to strike a conversation with you to learn more about it. Instead like I said previously all I got was insults and I'm assuming blocked. So stop crying about everybody throwing insults at you when you're the one that started it. PS I'm not some stupid nft tech bro that thinks crypto is the future, I hate that stuff it's stupid.
If I could go back in time I'd tell you to block "her".
Since the project is in dead state im looking to refund the payments made thank you all for giving so much love to this little project
You have an unusual definition of "love" considering the attacks I had to endure simply for speaking up against machine-learning-algorith procedurally generated art theft that overloads electrical power grids with all the power required to run it for what amounts to soulless uncanny valley art theft from people okay with stealing from starving artists.
As I said in the other comment, I appreciate your change of mind on "AI." But you now have a toxic fanbase of techbros who will turn on you the second they think you're not going to provide them with justification for their AI white knighting. I only hope it doesn't bite you like it did me when I simply tried to speak up.
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Are you going to add more stuff to this game for the next update
It's a shame to see the game die but it's understandable considering that you have no wishes to use AI anymore. You are a very good and respectable person for choosing to do things the right way and not the easy way. I wish you good luck with your future projects.
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When is the next up date
Pls update the game
wait. Where the hell is Kinode?
He is g o n e
An AI techbro is off the site?
my views have changed
yeah im sorry if i could do it again ill probably use my own art i took the easy way out.. not saying ai art cant be use for anything i feel like there could be some potential to be a tool but not like this stealing from other artists and making companies produce sloppy creativity
I don't disagree with your opinion, I like both creator art and ai art, but man, I really feel bad that you let yourself be manipulated by this prick
Thank you, I appreciate that information. Also, I apologize if I come across a bit blunt in this reply.
Normally I am far more polite and friendly with people since I'm generally a cheerful and optimistic person who has been harmed by so many people that I hate harming others since I don't want to make them feel like I once did.
But every time I see an alert for Flarea Gain, up until this one, it has always been yet another AI techbro trying to do one of the following:
-White knight procedurally-generated art theft with the same sales pitches that techbros used for crypto and NFT before that NFT bubble burst.
-Claim that the main issues with procedurally-generated art theft algorithms don't exist because they can't be bothered to use Google or talk to actual starving artists that are having their work stolen and being replaced by corporations with algorithms trained on the art they made without their permission. No doubt if I told them that electrical power grids are reporting huge strain under the sheer amount of electricitical power these algorithm-based procedurally generators require, they would make up some excuse or claim all the articles are false as well, even though this is the same problem that blockchain, cryptocurrency, and NFTs have and they attract the same techbros looking for get-rich-quick schemes.
-Make weird, bizarre false equivalency allegories for why "no, the millions of pieces of art used to train each algorithm without the permission of the original artists who own the art ISN'T art theft because of this" showing that they have no idea how anything in the world actually works or are expressing bizarre "if I can see it in public, it officially belongs to everyone including me" views akin to the meme version of communism (and funny enough, AI algorithms HAVE attracted hardcore stans who legitimately identify as communists for this very reason).
-Express their genuine contempt for hardworking artists because they see it as "taking power" from creatives who already have no power because corporations view creative roles as some of the lest valuable and expendable roles in any industry and so artists of any kind are frequently paid very little compared to other jobs in an industry or corporation.
-Simply sling petty and immature insults, usually by saying this isn't important to talk about for some reason that they won't share but somehow not talking about it is so important to them they want to silence others who talk about it, or just whatever degrading thing they can think of that is typically related to disabilities or various minorities groups such as black people or LGBT people.
The fact that AI algorithm content draws these horrid people like shit draws flies makes me question why you would want to associate with so many of such people in the first place, making content that would draw these peopel who hate artists, insult and try to forcibly silence people who simply see the issue with it, express clear bigoted views and will assume anyone they don't like falls under whatever minority they use as synonymous with playground namecalling, and are too stupid to understand any criticism of A.I. yet gullible enough to believe any poorly-written defense of A.I.
All these people in your comments, hurling insults, non-logic, and general horridness at anyone who simply sees the issue with AI, drawn to your work for having used and posted AI stuff, and you have allowed them to do so in your comments for so long. I appreciate your change of heart, and while I thank you for it, I'm afraid I have spent so long defending myself from hostile attacks by your own fans simply for criticizing algorithm-based art theft that I hesitant to not be suspicious of you still. I don't want to be, but the sheer amount of horrid people in your own fanbase attacking me for saying something you now agree with and being allowed to do so means my feelings of pain cannot be overcome by any desire I have to truly see you in a completely positive light from your change of mind.
I expressed criticism for machine-learning algorithm procedurally-generated images, trained from the theft of art that didn't belong to nor the person training the algorith nor did it have any permission to be used. In respons, I was relentlessly bombarded with abuse from your own fans who were drawn to the project you made because of the power-hogging method you used to make it via art that didn't belong to you. I tried to do something good with my life, and I paid for it at the hands of your fans.
If your fans hate that people stand up for what's right, hate that people don't remain bystanders, hate that horrid exploitation of the vulnerable is not allowed to happen without consequences or accountability, and are willing to dogpile such people to silence them so that they can get away with their hatred of artists and the environment?
Then I hope you're happy with the kind of fans you've attracted, as they likely won't be happy with your change of mind on the overloaded electrical grids powering their algorithmic image-generators that they are willing to go to war to white knight.
I appreciate you for your change of mind, thank you for speaking up about it... but the fact you stood by and let your fans abuse others for saying what you now agree with, simply because they wanted to silence the people who cared about the people being exploited by what they are defending, means I'm afraid I can't extend positive sentiments to you beyond that gratitude and appreciation, as my gratitude and appreciation do not heal the punishment I was forced to face for simply speaking up in an attempt to do some good in the world, however small it was in whatever little ways I could.
I also see that, despite agreeing with me on AI, your fanboy SK8ER69 is claiming I "manipulated you" and that I'm a "prick."
This is what I meant. You attracted such people to you with your choice to use souless art theft that overloads power stations. It's already happening and frankly considering all he warnings you had and how you stood by and let them do these things to me, again whileI appreciate your change of mind and thank you for speaking up, my pain at having paid for speaking up outweighs my sympathy for these same people who you let attack me now attacking you when you drew them to your shadow in the first place...
That sounds cruel, yes... but I can't help it. I've grown tired of trying to defend myself against these AI techbros that you brought here... so very tired... No good deed ever goes unpunished, not when there are techbros eager to silence people who could prevent them from being free of accountability...
I don't get what the point of this is. The AI-generated art theft is giving me serious uncanny valley and I can't imagine how the eco-destruction of generating the art theft is worth it when the writing is so full of typos and the English is too poor to make up for that uncanny valley, art theft, and environmentalism destruction.
cry about it
Hm, I'm not sure what you're supposed to accomplish with this comment. Is your self-worth wrapped up in trying to make others upset using ineffectual playground tactics? Or do you not get a lot of positive attention so you lash out at strangers online so you can feel less alone?
Nobody cares about your opinion, this is a simple game with AI art (and using AI art in your game if you paid is legal) with fetish content for those who have same fetish.
And dont say that my grammatical and english level is poor, I know that.
How strange. You say "you paid," but paid who? Knowingly paying a thief for their stolen goods doesn't make it legal, bro. If you think that, then you're probably gonna have a rough time in life.
I'm sorry dawg I wanna be reasonable and hear from both sides but you sound like the most entitled prick ever its insane, just let these people enjoy their game. it's not hurting nobody so just let it go
-an artist btw
Stop being bitch pls 😊
Bro is an actual Keyboard Warrior 😂😂
I'm a woman so I don't expect you to know what a "Keyboad Warrior" is. But the fact you don't know I'm a woman probably explains your vitriol and desire to white knight theft and environmental terrorism.
Erm what the sigma
No still only 2
Any new endings?
when is the next update gonna be added?
There are several problems with the development of this game, the firts one is that i cant work on it and work on other things that i have in my life right now, the second one is that the gameplay loop is very limited in its fun so it must be totally changed for it to work or make better events that leads to the third one that is my incapability or difficulty to make good story, some of the story or text in the game is very rushed or i thought of something and didnt put it later i often work with more ai to solve this which end up feeling really dull. I also have some problems with the way i generated the images so im now incapable of that too.
TLDR: I would need like a fan project type of team (i cant afford anything paid) and rework a lot of things to make update it. Im so sorry i know a lot of you played and liked and you keep commenting and it warms my heart thank you.
you're welcome! your game is awesome!
been playing some bullshit that game is so fucking good
Are you alive there?
what was the update for?
Kinode can get more fat.
When can it be updated?
Decent enough for an ai art game.
i hope there will be a update for this game this year
Me too, bro!
Why can't my Android phone display pictures?
我的电脑也不行
It's OK for what it is, though I'd like to see some more text as it's very picture heavy
im not a very text person...
They can't life got too busy
I love this game. Also is you get the ability to vore and go to Emmery's room you can eat her leave the do it again and gain 20kgs forever.
im the coding master